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    Sexist overpriced Swiss jizz merchants.
    • CommentAuthorhippy
    • CommentTimeFeb 7th 2010
     
    I dont' care.. I'm not BOYcotting them.
    • CommentAuthorwinston
    • CommentTimeFeb 8th 2010
     
    @BMMF would like some advice on artificially shortening reach to brake levers, I have largish palms but short levers and have my road bike setup in such a way that I'm reasonably aerodynamic on the hoods, so that I don't have to use the drops....because I can't reach the levers!, well can't get enough finger around them for soild braking...was considering researching women-specific levers...until i read that you know what to do....P.S. I've tried placing them in different locations on the bar.
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    You can set the cable tension quite loose, so that the tip of the lever can move half an inch without the pads going anywhere near the rim. Then you stick a shim on the inside of the hood (superglue a bit of rubber, or use some hard-setting expoxy resin stuff), where the lever stops against it at the fully open setting. Hang on, I've seen an internet tutorial somewhere…
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    Can't find pictures at the moment. You can also glue the rubber shim to the top of the lever instead of the hood body, if that works for your lever design better. Apparently the width of shim will cause about 3x difference in lever to bar distance e.g. 3mm shim = ~9mm shortening of lever reach.
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      CommentAuthorBringMeMyFix
    • CommentTimeFeb 8th 2010 edited
     
    And finally, don't know what lever's you've got, but:

    - Shimano seems to offer shims for 105 and up.

    - I've had a look at my Campag 9spd hoods. There's not much obvious space on which to fit a shim, but if I were to do it, I'd put something on the inside face of the hood, in the semi-circular recess where the lever's QR mechanism nestles.

    (hidden in this image, but you get the picture)
    • CommentAuthorwinston
    • CommentTimeFeb 8th 2010
     
    found'em at JE James...will try.
    • CommentAuthorVed
    • CommentTimeFeb 8th 2010
     
    For what it’s worth, when I have children one day, I will encourage them to take up cycling regardless of sex of the child.

    It’s encouraging to see quite a few girls taking up the sport under the watchful eye of their parents at Herne Hill. Some of the youngsters are incredible.
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    Posted By: BringMeMyFixIt'll be interesting to see what Rapha's marketing team come up with (I'm assuming their women's range hasn't launched yet?). You'd expect them to be a little more well-informed politically, but then again, their target market seems to include a lot of total dicks.


    As evidenced perhaps by glimpses of pink and blue gingham-style fabrics in previews of their new offerings.. new from Rapha/Gieves&Hawkes:



    • CommentAuthorTika
    • CommentTimeFeb 9th 2010
     
    i like it. rapha is ace
    i wish i could design for them
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      CommentAuthorBringMeMyFix
    • CommentTimeFeb 13th 2010 edited
     
    • CommentAuthorstelle
    • CommentTimeFeb 17th 2010
     
    that survey is totally ridiculous.
    Question: "why do you cycle?"
    Not one of the possible answers is 'for pleasure' or 'recreationally'.

    Is it inconceivable that women might cycle for pleasure? That would be the first option on an equivalent men's survey. BC need to drag their sorry arse out of the 1950s and come up with something better than that if they intend to really try to do something about women not cycling. Their sentiment is well-intentioned but they really don't have a clue.

    Rosie sorry I haven't had a chance to mention my thoughts on what you were asking about yet...
    • CommentAuthorrosie
    • CommentTimeFeb 18th 2010
     
    Yeah, I started filling it out, then got fed up with clicking 'other' and gave up. My favourite comment on it comes from the Twitter feed of Minx Girl:

    minxgirlcom: the British Cycling survey fails to list 'I enjoy it' as a motivation for women to ride. 'Lose weight' does however feature. Head/Wall/Hit
    • CommentAuthorJenny J
    • CommentTimeFeb 18th 2010
     
    My good male friend who is a cat 2 road racer admitted to me recently that he started cycling to shed some pounds; I knew he was more vain than me!

    And although I agree with various complaints about the survey, we are not necessarily a typical group of women who cycle. If I think back to my tentative first forays out on my short commute three years ago, having not cycled since my teens (which were a long old time ago), then I wouldn't have been so far off the mark where the BC survey was concerned.

    It was only once I started riding that I remembered it was fun.

    And now I've joined a bloody cycling club, post on forums, and know what all the bits of my bike are called. Jeez.
    • CommentAuthorbikepusher
    • CommentTimeFeb 22nd 2010
     
    @ Rosie: Are you still working at the CTC? Considered applying & meant to ask you about it, but never got round to it. Assume they will have recruited by now.
    • CommentAuthorrosie
    • CommentTimeFeb 22nd 2010
     
    I am, yeah - they're recruiting for a few jobs at the moment but the application deadline's passed; interviews are this week. They seem to do a lot of recruiting though (due to growth, rather than lots of people leaving), so keep an eye out.
    • CommentAuthorbikepusher
    • CommentTimeFeb 22nd 2010
     
    will do, thanks. the main issue is for me I can't take on a full-time job for a while, so options are limited.

    trust it's all going well for you over there, though.
    • CommentAuthorstelle
    • CommentTimeFeb 25th 2010
     
    We've got a good turnout for what's looking like Rollapaluza's first ladies night, sorry, women's training day. Me, Nancy, Gina and Niamh are heading up to Hillingdon on Sunday for the women's race training there, and we might even get some support from Jenny.
    Hopefully the weather cheers up a bit for it...
    • CommentAuthorwinston
    • CommentTimeFeb 25th 2010
     
    you said Laydeez, that's a green light for me then.....

    have a good one.
    • CommentAuthorJenny J
    • CommentTimeFeb 25th 2010
     
    Yes, will come and cheer you on this Sunday, 5-year-old son's mood permitting. Although not if it's peeing down. Which seems almost inevitable.

    If we do come, we shall bring cake.
    • CommentAuthorrosie
    • CommentTimeMar 1st 2010
     
    On the bike fit stuff: I have been proved entirely wrong by my colleague Chris Juden. I'm going to copy this email exchange in case it's of interest. It came about cos I was test riding a women specific bike for a review. He references a spreadsheet which was an attachment, I can email it to anyone if they're interested.

    Hey Rosie
    I just managed to read your report (seems to be different version of Word that needed a converter). One thing I'll have to delete is all that about women having shorter torsos than men the same height.
    Like you've, I've read it so often in cycling mags and books that I used to believe it too! Then I did a group test of bikes with a panel of 15 women – and they did not seem to have any shorter torsos than men: they were just shorter all over. So I got hold of a copy of Adultdata from the DTI. It turns out that whatever way you measure it, average ratio of legs to stature is, in fact, near enough identical between men and women.
    AFAICT cycling's leggy woman myth originated with Georgena Terry, who set up a womens bike business in USA in the 70s, after measuring a load of male and female racing cyclists. It comes as no surprise to me that the women in her sample had long legs for their height, since they were self-selected for their ability to pedal competitively using a length of crank that (except for minor tweaks of 5mm) is standardised for the average man, who is more than 5 inches taller than most women!
    Anyway: as a press person and a woman, I think you ought to know about this, so I attach some figures I extracted from Adultdata a while ago.
    As for WHY women nevertheless require the bars higher and closer: I think it's to do with the female pelvis. This structure clearly is WAY different between men and women, for obvious reasons. It's a common observation that women seem to sit differently on a saddle, do not tilt their pelvis forward as far and that women racers often ride with the saddle nose pointing downwards so they can get more aero. This, I'm pretty sure, is the actual reason normal women (as well as the leggy ones!) want their handlebars high and close.
    If it were just the limb ratio, women would not need them high as well as close. Males with short torsos have their bars close too, but still just as low - often lower, since long arms tend to go with long legs (it’s a matter of hormone levels at the different ages when long bones and vertebrae are growing).

    My response:
    Chris,

    This is fascinating! I've never thought about pelvises - but I have been (affectionately) teased by male riders for having my saddle pointing downwards, as they all seem to think saddles should be level and I've always been confused about why men WOULDN'T ride with their seats pointing downwards, because of course it makes you faster.

    I was wondering about the high front end while I was writing the review. I don't find I need to be higher at the front to be comfortable compared to most men - in fact I much prefer a lower, more aero position. Do you think the height thing might just be another myth based on a notion that women generally prefer comfort over speed to more of an extent than men?
    • CommentAuthorrosie
    • CommentTimeMar 1st 2010
     
    Chris's response:
    Hi Rosie
    Glad you appreciate all that.
    About your position: I think your tilting down of the saddle is simply what you have to do in order to accommodate your pelvis to the aerodynamic demands of cycle racing, without acute discomfort either to your spine of in the saddle area. It's not ideal because you'll tend to slip down a sloping saddle and have to pedal with more forward pedal thrust at the top of the stroke (not good for your knees) or more forward pressure on your hands.
    Women who are not as strongly motivated as you to go as fast as possible (i.e. most women) will not make those sacrifices upon the altar of speed, will want to keep their saddles horizontal and just accept that they cannot be as aero on a bike as most men.
    We are not all made the same of course. Some women are able to get a really flat back without tilting the saddle down at all, just as some men find the nose of a saddle forces them to choose between sitting more upright and tilting it down.
    As for whether most women are less competitive by nature than most men, I guess that's true. I'm not very competitive myself, but my handlebars are lower than my saddle. (And my legs are 50% of my stature, which as you'll see from the spreadsheet makes me really leggy! A male cycling friend of mine is 53.5% leg, by the way.)
    There's a great deal of overlap between the sexes even in the pelvic department. Differences between how much effort people want to expend adds further variety. I think a great many less agonistic males would fit well on a "WSD" bike, just the same as some highly athletic females are entirely happy with a standard racer. WSD and standard (male) designs represent the peaks of two distributions that are both pretty flat and much wider than the spacing between those peaks.
    For example: sit bone separation is the one cycling-related dimension in Adultdata that clearly differs between the sexes, due to a woman's obviously wider hips. Nevertheless: a statistical analysis of the mean and standard distributions of sit bone separation by the way, indicates that if mens and womens saddles are each designed to suit Mr and Mrs Average respectively (which they probably aren't): one third of men ought to fit better on a women's saddle and vice-versa! But for some reason it seems easier to persuade a slim woman to try a man's than a big broad bloke to sit on a pink saddle!
    • CommentAuthorstelle
    • CommentTimeMar 16th 2010
     
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      CommentAuthorAnt
    • CommentTimeMar 16th 2010
     
    I was just sick in my mouth.
    • CommentAuthorstelle
    • CommentTimeMar 16th 2010
     
    Did you just eat a mule bar?
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      CommentAuthorAnt
    • CommentTimeMar 16th 2010
     
    No it's because I want to wear lip-gloss with a full-face helmet.
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    ^sounds a bit rude
    • CommentAuthorwinston
    • CommentTimeMar 17th 2010
     
    First Team Series event on 18 April!

    http://www.teamseries.co.uk/
    • CommentAuthorstelle
    • CommentTimeMar 17th 2010
     
    And Rob's women's sessions start on Sunday at the track.
    Rob's women...sounds quite wrong :)
    • CommentAuthorTT Tom
    • CommentTimeMar 17th 2010
     
    Bit like 'jossy's giants'
    • CommentAuthorRPM
    • CommentTimeMar 17th 2010
     
    More like Charlie's Angels
    • CommentAuthorstelle
    • CommentTimeMar 17th 2010
     
    really? Standards have risen while I've been hibernating, apparently!
    • CommentAuthorPinky
    • CommentTimeMar 18th 2010
     
    Standards! Don't think Pinky's gonna quite cut the mustered down the track though, so can I rent a bike on arrival? Anyone got any advice or anything to say about Sunday would be much appreciated as it's all new to me! Yes, I've read the HH site. Cheers....
    • CommentAuthorstelle
    • CommentTimeMar 18th 2010
     
    Would have thought hiring a bike is fine. I found when I first went down that I didn't have a clue what was going on or where I should be or go or anything. But it's fine really. Rob will tell you what to do :)

    There's an induction on Sunday,right? another friend of mine might want to come along...
    • CommentAuthorSem
    • CommentTimeMar 18th 2010
     
    oooh what time are the sessions on Sunday?

    I thought it was Youth sessions.

    YAY i've been waiting for this since september!!
    • CommentAuthorSem
    • CommentTimeMar 18th 2010
     
    also.
    I've just been checking out women's racing.
    I would like to try, but having never raced in my life and having absolutely no clue whether I'd even be able to finish one or not.

    some stupid questions. In fact I'll just make it easy and stick to one stupid question.

    Where do I start?
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      CommentAuthorBringMeMyFix
    • CommentTimeMar 18th 2010 edited
     
    ^There's often a line painted across the road, and a gruff bloke with a clipboard and a whistle.
    • CommentAuthorSem
    • CommentTimeMar 18th 2010
     
    hah!

    sounds easy enough ;)
    • CommentAuthorRPM
    • CommentTimeMar 18th 2010
     
    yes to inductions and bike hire on sunday
    • CommentAuthorSem
    • CommentTimeMar 18th 2010
     
    what time?
    • CommentAuthorstelle
    • CommentTimeMar 18th 2010
     
    4 - 6 on Sunday. Yay, come down! I can tell you what little I know about racing then. Basically turn up, wander around, try to work out what's going on, fail, have no idea what's going on, ride your bike, finish riding your bike, feel great/shit, go home. There is a women's 3/4 race at Goodwood next sunday, which would be a good start if you fancy. You'll need a race licence from BC which costs an arm and a leg.
    • CommentAuthorSem
    • CommentTimeMar 18th 2010
     
    cool...ill be there :)

    can't do goodwood i am going to Calshot, yippeee.

    see you sunday :D
    • CommentAuthorJenny J
    • CommentTimeMar 19th 2010
     
    Yay - looking forward to seeing everyone on Sunday for some circles.

    I'll have to hire a bike this time too. Bike building going way slower than I'd thought. And I'd forgotten to buy some crucial bits. (For example, tyres).

    And may be up for racing in a couple of months.

    (Emphasis on the may...)
    • CommentAuthorRPM
    • CommentTimeMar 30th 2010
     
    http://www.londoncyclesport.com/Results/All_Results/London_Women_s_Cycle_Racing_League_1.html

    report of the weekend's racing, with our own Nancy in 22nd mid pack, well done!
    • CommentAuthorwinston
    • CommentTimeMay 4th 2010
     
    In the words of Anna G:

    "womens track sesh this sunday 9th may" 4-6pm
    • CommentAuthorwinston
    • CommentTimeMay 5th 2010
     
    A chance to race on real roads! Enter now for the SE regional champs at Ellens Green - even if you're not from the SE region you can still join in the racing on the day.

    Kingston Phoenix Road Club Open Womens Road Race (incorporating the South East Regional Championship)

    Saturday 22nd May 2010 12.30pm

    Course: Ellens Green (see Surrey League website for details:
    http://www.surreyleague.co.uk/courses/ellensgreen.htm )

    Approx; 42 miles

    HQ: Ellens Green Memorial Hall, Furzen Lane, Ellens Green, Surrey RH12 3AR

    Entries to:
    Simon Mitchell
    23 Fulford Road
    West Ewell Surrey
    KT19 9QZ

    Tel: 0208 394 2665
    email: si@kprc.org.uk

    Only 11 entries have been received so far!

    £14.00 in advance. Advance entry closes on May 20th.

    £20.00 entry on the day

    Cheques payable to: British Cycling SE Region
    • CommentAuthorstelle
    • CommentTimeMay 5th 2010 edited
     
    Oh goody. Racing on those fake roads was making me feel so...shallow
    • CommentAuthorJenny J
    • CommentTimeMay 6th 2010
     
    Only 11 entries have been received so far!

    that's supposed to be a selling point - real roads and nowhere to hide? big no thanks from me!

    ps - anyone know if the women's track session is on this Sunday. I FINALLY have my bike ready. Yippeee. (Will need someone to cast an eye over it before I use it though as tis my first foray into putting-bike-together and not 100% sure tis safe)
    • CommentAuthorRPM
    • CommentTimeMay 6th 2010
     
    Yes, 1600.
    • CommentAuthorrosie
    • CommentTimeMay 9th 2010 edited
     
    I don't seem to be able to click on quote but I'm interested in the Ellen Green thing - is there info online anywhere (sorry if I'm being blind/stupid - which is likely)? I know the post has pretty much all you need to know but I can't see anything about it on the Surrey League or Kingston Phoenix website.

    I'll probably wimp out, but if there's a webpage or anything I'd like to stare at it and resent myself for being a wuss if possible.

    EDIT: ignore me, remembered there's a London Women's Cycle Racing website now :)
    edit again: there's no rider cat, it just says band 3 - anyone know if that means it's open to anyone?